Jul 10, 2025

Mini Discovery

• How’s it gone so far
• Priority for robotics
• Timelines
• Rough salary guide

AI role = pretty successful, so likely closed that (NB we can either mention the float on the kick-off call, or just float either side of it)

Robotics role = 51 applicants

• 2x roles at a minimum
• High calibre individual
• Has had limited luck with outreach
  • Reached out to 3 and they’re keen to stay
  • 1 guy who’s a maybe

High calibre?

• Best combination of:

1. SLAM knowledge
2. Experience with manipulation
3. ROS
4. Deploying real world stuff -
5. AI, handling data

1. Any kind of robotics, particularly manipulation. Cf ground robot, just driving along
2. Complex control

1. Personal

1. Can relocate and sponsor
2. Wants Onset to focus purely on Australia - investors trying looking overseas so might be a conflict

Process

1. 1. Pre-screening (Onset)
   2. Meet & greet (Xavier)
   3. Technical test (coding exercise tbc - live coding, structuring)
   4. Offer
2. Turn-offs?
   1. Open mind, not necessarily
   2. Can deal with difficult personalities a bit, that’s fine
   3. Relevant education, relevant experience

Comp

• Flexible
• In the $200ks
• Founding engineer? Move into CTO at right time
  • Leading teams? Could come as in a manager and build the manager. The other one would need to be a
• Child genius? Could easily fill junior roles
  • Has a massive list of juniors already

Plan going forward

• Weekly catch-up
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Placeholder: Anitron <> Onset | Robotics Kick-off Call - Transcript

00:00:00

 
Toby Tank: Hello.
Thaís Amorim: Oh, hang on. I got to my earphones in.
Toby Tank: How are you?
Thaís Amorim: I'm very good. How are you?
Toby Tank: Yeah, I'm very good. Are you When did you Did you travel down last night? Are you traveling outside
Thaís Amorim: I'm here now.
Toby Tank: the journey down?
Thaís Amorim: That's fine. Pretty quick. Hello.
Xavier Orr: How's it going?
Toby Tank: Very well, thanks.
Thaís Amorim: Very
Toby Tank: How are
Thaís Amorim: good.
Toby Tank: you?
Xavier Orr: Good, thanks.
Toby Tank: Good. Good. You working from home today?
Xavier Orr: Yeah. Yeah, I'm away from home today. What?
Toby Tank: You back in tomorrow for the um the usual meetings at establishment?
Xavier Orr: Uh yeah, in the afternoon I I have a few meetings from about 3 onwards.
Toby Tank: Yeah, nice. Um well, Ty, Xavier, Xavier Tais.
Xavier Orr: Hey, nice
Thaís Amorim: Nice
Xavier Orr: to meet
Thaís Amorim: to meet
Xavier Orr: you.
Thaís Amorim: you.
Toby Tank: So um yeah, Xavier Ty is our um deep tech engineering recruitment star and um is a real robotics expert.
 
 

00:02:51

 
Toby Tank: has worked on some really interesting um somewhat analogist work recently um um with a few clients also making a big splash or or trying to make a big splash in in the deep tech uh world and trying to leave their mark on the world. So um yeah, I think you will be in great hands here. I know we will. Um and Ty, I'm I'm sure you're aware of of Xavier and come very close to interacting before but not actually directly.
Thaís Amorim: Yeah, absolutely. I um nap since joining the the onset. So feel like I know plenty about you Javier even though we've we've never really met before. Um looking forward to to working with you.
Xavier Orr: Okay, good stuff.
Toby Tank: Cool. Cool. So, um, yeah, conscious that Xavier, we've had, you know, plenty of chats so far and it's kind of it's something that's that's evolved in terms of the brief and, um, you know, I brought Ty up to speed. Um, but
Xavier Orr: H
Toby Tank: other than, you know, you guys connecting directly, it was was keen to kind of outline a bit of a plan.
 
 

00:03:54

 
Toby Tank: Um, you know, I guess open up some space to see if anything's changed since we met. Um, we did see that you um you gone public with your AI hire this morning, which is exciting. Um, and yeah,
Xavier Orr: uh
Toby Tank: I
Xavier Orr: did
Toby Tank: guess
Xavier Orr: I
Toby Tank: well your your higher has anyway.
Xavier Orr: oh what someone put it on their LinkedIn
Toby Tank: Yeah.
Xavier Orr: I was uh trying to not have that occur.
Toby Tank: Oh, no. Okay, there you go. There's the
Xavier Orr: Yeah,
Toby Tank: first pick up.
Xavier Orr: just because, you know, like there's a bit
Thaís Amorim: Happy.
Xavier Orr: of a poaching problem like at the moment. So,
Toby Tank: Right. Right.
Xavier Orr: yeah. No,
Toby Tank: Yeah.
Xavier Orr: that's all right.
Toby Tank: Okay. Um where was I? Yeah. So, outline a bit of a plan. Um open up some space for you to kind of um ask Tais or me anything. Um and yeah, I think Taiis just may have a few questions that I haven't asked so far.
 
 

00:04:46

 
Toby Tank: Correct me if I'm wrong, Tais. Um and maybe Yeah. Did you want to start there? Did you want to maybe give you an overview of of recent similar workplace or did you want to start with questions?
Thaís Amorim: Um well, I'm not sure how much you've spoken to to Xavier about um what I what I've recently done. I'm not sure if you're familiar with um Riker Xavier as
Xavier Orr: Yeah.
Thaís Amorim: um startup. So what what they're doing from both an AI and robotics perspective, although it's not a humanoid uh robotics startup, is very similar to to what you'd be looking for from a skills perspective. Um
Xavier Orr: Mhm.
Thaís Amorim: probably at different levels. Um, sounds like you're looking for someone a lot more senior than who I placed at Breaker and and the level that they were looking for. But from a technology perspective, it sounds like um everything is kind of on the same sort of level from an LM perspective when it comes to to the AI side of things, but also on the robotics, motion planning, slams, um, perception, and things like that.
 
 

00:05:54

 
Thaís Amorim: Um, it would be good to get an idea of like your your non-negotiables, what you're ideally looking for and the types of technologies that you'd be prioritizing. Um, because I'm sure both companies will have similarities but also differences. So, it's bigger
Xavier Orr: Yeah.
Thaís Amorim: to drill down on that a little bit more.
Xavier Orr: Um, yeah. So, I mean, I guess the big difference is going to be the man manipulation. Um, which is like the arms and the and the hands. Um, yeah. So, look, they're definitely Yeah, I mean, having some experience with manipulation in the past would be, yeah, really ideal. Um, and I think, yeah, that's probably going to be your main difference with Breaker. Um, I guess, yeah, they're still using a lot of the same sort of tech stack. Um, and really, yeah, the manipulation, I guess, is and it's also a very hard part of the problem that we're solving. So, yeah, like having experience with manipulation would be sort of a big one and path planning and things like that.
 
 

00:07:01

 
Xavier Orr: um physics and um physics engines and dynamic physics and dynamics models.
Thaís Amorim: Okay.
Xavier Orr: Um
Thaís Amorim: Have you
Xavier Orr: yeah, I think the approach they're doing is a little bit different. So they probably wouldn't have the physics and dynamics models as part of their
Thaís Amorim: No, I I I definitely don't think so. Um, from a manipulation perspective, do you know any companies in Australia that might do that type of work?
Xavier Orr: um a lot of companies will use robot arms for for stuff. So while it won't it's like high yeah you're not going to find someone who's worked with a humanoid robot before um there is a lot of companies using like industrial robot arms um and like this there's also like the desktop ones and there's um what they call cobot which is um it's like a robot arm for the desktop and it's uh it's designed to interact with humans.
Thaís Amorim: Okay.
Xavier Orr: So those
Thaís Amorim: Okay.
Xavier Orr: cobots are pretty popular at the universities now. Like a lot of um a lot of the students are working with the cobots like the ones from I think it's universal robotics is like a really popular one that's in use at the universities.
 
 

00:08:21

 
Thaís Amorim: Yeah. Okay. Awesome. Um, do you feel like perhaps someone who might have that robotic arm manipulation sort of experience would potentially lack the remaining tech stack that you would need? So, SLAM path planning and and all of what we spoke about just then
Xavier Orr: Um, well, it might be
Thaís Amorim: a lot.
Xavier Orr: that it's not their specialty area, but they've had experience in it. So, like
Thaís Amorim: Yeah.
Xavier Orr: even if they they just sort of like, you know, had some experience at university with it or something like that, I guess, you know, would would be bonus points. It's like I guess they don't have to have it. If there's an absolute star that doesn't have it, you know, I'm sure we could teach them, but yeah, ideally they would would have it
Thaís Amorim: Yeah. Okay. No, that's fine. um how and I'm sorry if you and Toby have already spoken about this but what would the ideal person look like for you if you were to describe not just the technical experience but the traits like how how senior is senior when when we're talking about years of experience or achievements that they might have um that they might have in their in their profiles
 
 

00:09:41

 
Xavier Orr: Um well I guess yeah you'd be a minimum of five years for senior but I guess it's also related to the you know the experience they have. Um yeah so I mean it'd be a minimum minimum 5 years but more likely you know 8 to 10 years um and then I guess yeah like a breadth of experience across different systems and yeah like different technologies.
Thaís Amorim: Okay, let me
Toby Tank: had
Thaís Amorim: see.
Toby Tank: a thought as well. Oh, sorry, Ty.
Thaís Amorim: Okay, that's
Toby Tank: Um, yeah. So, if we're looking at some of this experience and and we sort of acknowledge that a lot of it isn't going to be um, you know, from a commercial setting or from a like outside of a lab setting, are you open to sort of I mean, I know that the founding team is is almost exclusively academic um, in some way. Are you open to like academia heavy profiles?
Xavier Orr: Uh I think like yeah, we kind of got to move away from that like
Toby Tank: Okay.
Xavier Orr: um I guess so the the tricky bit with academia is like uh you know the sort of like the productiness and so really like
 
 

00:10:56

 
Toby Tank: Yeah.
Xavier Orr: I feel like at the moment I'm the only kind of product person on the whole team um which yeah just means I'm a bit stretched so
Toby Tank: Yep.
Xavier Orr: yeah that that is the problem you tend to have with academia is like less sort of product and commercial market focus um and I think it would be here to have some of that
Toby Tank: Yeah. Okay. So, if you had sort of two lined up side by side, one's kind of academia heavy, like the the sort of subject matter knowledge is is kind of um you know, a direct hit, but they're not going to bring any sort of product um knowledge that helps you kind of bolster that versus
Xavier Orr: h
Toby Tank: the opposite. You're
Xavier Orr: well
Toby Tank: probably more
Xavier Orr: I
Toby Tank: likely
Xavier Orr: guess
Toby Tank: to go with
Xavier Orr: I
Toby Tank: Now go
Xavier Orr: guess
Toby Tank: ahead.
Xavier Orr: it's
Toby Tank: Go
Xavier Orr: like
Toby Tank: ahead.
Xavier Orr: yeah it's it's uh it's not so much product knowledge but yeah more so that commercial experience like experience, you know, in a commercial or or so if they haven't, you know, if they've only ever worked at the university.
 
 

00:11:53

 
Xavier Orr: Yeah. I think that's probably not what we're after here.
Toby Tank: Yep. Makes sense. Sorry, I jumped in on your fly face.
Thaís Amorim: Oh, that that's okay. Um, can I ask you what what did you like about Shia? What got him across
Xavier Orr: Uh
Thaís Amorim: the line?
Xavier Orr: Yeah, Xiaoi, he he had experience just in a lot of the different text stack that we're using. Um, so you know, he's uh expertise in Ross. Um, he, you know, he's worked with manipulation, so done a lot of stuff with robot arms. Um yeah, he'd built his own sort of robot that was like a a ground robot with a robot arm running on BRS and he was kind of doing and um like running it through AI and that was just like a personal interest thing which uh yeah
Thaís Amorim: Okay.
Xavier Orr: I found that quite impressive. Um and then yeah like I guess all his thesises you know that he's written um yeah they're all quite relevant to what we're doing.
 
 

00:13:01

 
Xavier Orr: So yeah, the AI the AI like experience and knowledge is all highly relevant. All of the slam, the slam, the lighter, the Ross path planning, um the physics dynamics. Yeah. And sort of doing things in simulation as well. So yeah, he kind of had Yeah, quite a good bread there.
Thaís Amorim: Is he a bit of a unicorn for you?
Xavier Orr: What's
Thaís Amorim: Just not
Xavier Orr: a
Thaís Amorim: with
Xavier Orr: unicorn?
Thaís Amorim: the years. Oh, I don't know. What do you describe as a unicorn?
Xavier Orr: Uh, well, I I am only familiar with that term in business where it means a billion dollar valuation.
Thaís Amorim: A unicorn is a candidate that you know ticks if not all most of your boxes and
Xavier Orr: Yeah.
Thaís Amorim: it's the ideal profile incredibly hard to find. So if you find them, they're a unicorn because they typically
Xavier Orr: Ah
Thaís Amorim: don't
Xavier Orr: okay.
Thaís Amorim: exist.
Xavier Orr: Um Xiao is probably like uh he's very good on the tech side but obviously like his years of commercial experience are limited.
 
 

00:14:10

 
Xavier Orr: Um
Thaís Amorim: Yeah. Okay.
Xavier Orr: so he's more like uh on the academic side and that's fine. Um like you know it's just that the team is getting pretty stacked with people like that right now.
Thaís Amorim: Yeah. Okay. Mhm. That makes sense. Cool. Um I I'm just mindful of asking questions that you've already asked Toby in terms of the product and and the the problems you're trying to solve with um with Anatron, but if you were to sort of describe the the immediate problem that you're trying to solve and and why the company exists, how would you how would you describe that to candidates?
Xavier Orr: Um the immediate problem was so I guess there's like a um there's a talent shortage you know so we have an aging population um and uh we're only going to I guess the birth rate has only been decreasing and we're only likely to see more and more talent gaps and u humanoid robotics can help us to increase our standard of living um you know to resolve that that issue um so I guess you know it's a huge future market and um yeah with the tech behind us yeah we have a unique advantage um in getting started in this market and yeah I guess we have the backing of some major VCs um and some major
 
 

00:15:39

 
Xavier Orr: Australian capital um to push it forward board as well.
Thaís Amorim: Okay, awesome. It was about time someone did that.
Xavier Orr: Yeah. And uh yeah, it's a unique position we're in it actually at the moment as well. I I guess uh it wasn't supposed to be public knowledge, but yeah, we're working on the hardware we use is a Chinese robot. Um and that kind of got leaked to business news and yeah, business news got leaked some information and now it's sort of public knowledge which is fine. Um yeah, so we work on a Chinese robot platform. We're in a unique position there because of like the US tariffs. Um so that same Chinese robot is not really feasible to use in the US because of the 140% tariff. So it is kind of like a unique situation um for the location we're in um having access to that the price point of that robot um you know and being able to work freely with it.
Thaís Amorim: Okay. Would you ever tackle the American market or
 
 

00:16:45

 
Xavier Orr: Uh yeah, we'd need to find like a hardware platform. So I mean in theory we're platform agnostic, right? And we can
Thaís Amorim: Okay.
Xavier Orr: jump between humanoid robots. Um but I mean we would need to find a hardware platform that would be that would be all right for the humanoid market in America. I mean, right now, all of the US players, their robots cost like hundreds of thousands of dollars.
Thaís Amorim: Yeah.
Xavier Orr: Like, uh I know Tesla keeps saying 20 or 30,000, but if you look like look through their like uh published materials, um you know, cuz they're publicly listed, you know, you can see that each robot's actually costing them 1.1 million. So, it's
Toby Tank: Yeah.
Xavier Orr: like not really commercially feasible to do anything with a robot of that cost.
Thaís Amorim: Wow,
Xavier Orr: Yeah.
Thaís Amorim: that
Xavier Orr: Whereas
Thaís Amorim: is
Xavier Orr: our our robot
Thaís Amorim: crazy.
Xavier Orr: is US 16,000 from China. So it's just a it's a vast gap there.
Thaís Amorim: So while everyone is freaking out about tariffs, you're just using it to your advantage.
 
 

00:17:48

 
Xavier Orr: Yeah. Yeah. I guess that's the way it is. Yeah.
Toby Tank: It's such a good such a good um platform like to to to launch from. It's all of those things coming together just just um yeah it's great great combination and timing. So that's awesome.
Thaís Amorim: Oh, sounds like you found that before.
Xavier Orr: Yeah. Uh well, Adnav was very sensitive about Chinese equipment actually. So yeah,
Thaís Amorim: Yeah.
Xavier Orr: cuz we were we were defense, we're never allowed to. So uh it'd be bit unique.
Thaís Amorim: Yeah. No, definitely. Um, speaking of adnaz, I'm thinking of no coaching policies. Obviously, AdNAV um
Xavier Orr: Yeah.
Thaís Amorim: being mindful of that, but with your investors, are there any other robotics uh companies part of the same portfolio that you'd have a no coaching agreement with? And who are they? If so,
Xavier Orr: Uh yeah, like we don't want to be poaching from Breaker. Um, and
Thaís Amorim: I
Xavier Orr: but
 
 

00:18:54

 
Thaís Amorim: wouldn't
Xavier Orr: I guess
Thaís Amorim: wouldn't
Xavier Orr: you
Thaís Amorim: do
Xavier Orr: guys
Thaís Amorim: that
Xavier Orr: are
Thaís Amorim: anyway.
Xavier Orr: engaged. Yeah, you're engaged by Breaker, right? Yeah.
Toby Tank: Yeah.
Thaís Amorim: Yeah.
Xavier Orr: Um, yeah. So, look, I think aside from that, there's no one Yeah, there's no one who's too close in the field.
Thaís Amorim: Can we approach
Toby Tank: Okay.
Thaís Amorim: from Emerson?
Xavier Orr: Um, like Emerson's in Brisbane, aren't they?
Thaís Amorim: Yeah. But you know, mobility some some people are keen to to relocate to Sydney. You never know.
Xavier Orr: Um, yeah, you could. I think like Yeah, if there's someone really good you find could try. Um, yeah, I mean I'd need to double check that.
Thaís Amorim: Okay. You don't want to give too much away. I might figure out who your investors are.
Xavier Orr: Oh, well, I mean you you obviously know like Yeah. main sequence is
Toby Tank: breaker.
Xavier Orr: involved.
Toby Tank: Yeah.
 
 

00:19:49

 
Xavier Orr: Yeah.
Toby Tank: Yeah.
Xavier Orr: Yeah. Um I mean it's it's just not public yet, right? So we're
Thaís Amorim: Yeah.
Xavier Orr: under NDA and we're not allowed to say anything.
Toby Tank: Yeah.
Xavier Orr: Um but
Thaís Amorim: Yeah.
Xavier Orr: yeah, main sequence
Thaís Amorim: Okay.
Xavier Orr: is involved. Um so if we dodge main sequence portfolio companies a bit, you know, that would be good.
Toby Tank: Yeah,
Thaís Amorim: Okay. Yeah.
Toby Tank: definitely
Thaís Amorim: Ment
Toby Tank: worth starting.
Thaís Amorim: could be out of out of chance then.
Toby Tank: Yeah.
Thaís Amorim: Um do you have any uh strong relationships with Drone Shield? Not that there are too many engineers doing autonomy work, but there's people that have come from Adnav, people that have come from MSENT to drone shield. They got strong ties or do you not care about them?
Xavier Orr: Um, no. I think it's fine. Uh, like me and Oleg had like a no poaching verbal agreement while I was at Adnav, but we haven't established that for
 
 

00:20:43

 
Thaís Amorim: Okay.
Xavier Orr: um, Anatron. Um, and I think as well, like so since I left Adnav, he's been poaching there cuz he
Thaís Amorim: I
Xavier Orr: feels like
Thaís Amorim: was going
Xavier Orr: the
Thaís Amorim: to
Xavier Orr: agree
Thaís Amorim: say I
Xavier Orr: the
Thaís Amorim: feel
Xavier Orr: agreement
Thaís Amorim: like he's not being
Xavier Orr: the agreement's
Toby Tank: pretty
Thaís Amorim: true
Toby Tank: much
Thaís Amorim: to
Toby Tank: is
Thaís Amorim: his
Xavier Orr: gone.
Toby Tank: done.
Thaís Amorim: word.
Xavier Orr: Well, when I retired, he basically said, "Well, the agreement was with you and uh and it's
Toby Tank: No.
Xavier Orr: not with
Toby Tank: Wow.
Xavier Orr: like it doesn't it doesn't continue now."
Toby Tank: The
Thaís Amorim: Right.
Toby Tank: letter of law. I love that. Yeah.
Xavier Orr: Yeah.
Toby Tank: No more, no less than what we agree. Fair. I mean, fair
Xavier Orr: Yeah.
Toby Tank: play.
Thaís Amorim: Okay. That's very interesting. Um, okay. Well, I think that is definitely enough to to get us started.
 
 

00:21:24

 
Thaís Amorim: Um, Toby's already asked enough questions as well, so I don't want to waste your time. Um, but um, yeah, look, if if you want to jump on a call in a week's time or in 10 days time to talk about progress and and the people available in the market, um, I'm happy to do that. It depends on how you want to work. if you just want to be left to your own devices or if you want market intelligence and want to know who's available, how much they're asking for, what sort of experience they have, I'm happy to do that. But if you just want to be
Toby Tank: Cool.
Thaís Amorim: left alone, I'm I'm happy to do that as well.
Xavier Orr: Okay. Um, yeah. I mean, it'd be good to just get status updates, I guess, as to how you're going.
Thaís Amorim: Cool.
Xavier Orr: Yeah.
Toby Tank: Yeah.
Thaís Amorim: Sounds good.
Xavier Orr: Um, and Toby, like, you know, with the bill for the the 30% or whatever, like
Toby Tank: Yeah.
Xavier Orr: is someone going to send that through or is it
 
 

00:22:17

 
Toby Tank: Yeah. Yeah. So, I wanted to just um yeah, chat with you first and um yeah, sort of kick things off before just saying thanks very much and sending you an invoice. But yeah, we we'll get them sent out um pretty soon. Um just on
Xavier Orr: Yeah.
Toby Tank: on your point there, Tais um yeah, I think what you know, whatever works for you, Xavier, I think um what what has worked with searches like this before and you know, certainly what we're as a minimum prepared to do in terms of is set up like a weekly call. You know, we basically become your TA team um an extension of the business and then we like obviously we want to deal with things async. Things are going to move quite quickly. We want to just make calls as we go. Um, but I think the weekly commitment to a bit of each other's time, you know, mops things up, helps us remove blockers, allows us to pivot on the on the process and methodology, and you can kind of
 
 

00:23:04

 
Thaís Amorim: There
Toby Tank: give us
Thaís Amorim: we go.
Toby Tank: feedback on what we're doing, whether that's working before it's kind of, you know, a Fortnite or a month has gone, and as T mentioned, we've got the opportunity to kind of give you market intel like this this isn't working for whatever reason or like this whole company isn't interested. Um, and uh, yeah, so I I'll I'll probably put that in the diary and we can maybe weekly and we can just like kill it if we don't need it that week if we've asynced uh, everything else. Um, and yeah, I think it's probably probably the way forward. Um, in terms of next week or the kind of first part here, we'll we'll search and map everything. Um, at the very least, we'd want to have like a an overview of like this is what we think the addressable market is. That we've done it a little bit. Um, and it's it's small, it's finite, but I think, you know, some of the line of questioning today has definitely opened it up, at least in my head.
 
 

00:23:54

 
Toby Tank: Um, so that would be the aim for next week. And if we can produce profiles by the end of next week, amazing. Um, and we'll we'll we'll commit to doing few but um but relevant. And hopefully we'll have to sift through heaps that you can easily get through the um the ad, right? So that's the approach at this point. Um, how do you feel about that?
Xavier Orr: Yep, sounds good.
Toby Tank: Okay, cool. Um, and then obviously you've um by your own design publicly declared uh your your new hire, but um we've got a few potentially interesting
Xavier Orr: So,
Toby Tank: AI
Xavier Orr: you know, I
Toby Tank: folks.
Xavier Orr: I was just wondering as well, how do you how
Toby Tank: Yeah.
Xavier Orr: do you actually say that? Because I can't even say it on my LinkedIn.
Toby Tank: Oh, he's in our network, right? We're connected with him.
Xavier Orr: Oh,
Toby Tank: So,
Xavier Orr: I see.
Toby Tank: uh
Xavier Orr: So, he you saw that he's updated his job status, but
 
 

00:24:43

 
Toby Tank: yeah.
Xavier Orr: if
Toby Tank: And
Xavier Orr: you weren't
Thaís Amorim: There
Xavier Orr: following
Thaís Amorim: wasn't
Xavier Orr: him, you wouldn't see it.
Toby Tank: Uh yeah, unless unless someone in your network interacted with it and and also to to be fair, he may not have announced it, but we you know, you generally get like a new job like LinkedIn pushes new job updates now. So he might have
Xavier Orr: Uh,
Toby Tank: just updated
Xavier Orr: okay.
Toby Tank: it, not necessarily
Xavier Orr: Yeah.
Toby Tank: announced it, but it's like a deacto announcement because everyone sees it.
Xavier Orr: Yeah,
Thaís Amorim: Yeah,
Xavier Orr: sure.
Thaís Amorim: there's no
Xavier Orr: Yep.
Thaís Amorim: announcements or anything. He
Toby Tank: Yeah.
Thaís Amorim: just put the company on his profile and me
Xavier Orr: Ah,
Thaís Amorim: going
Xavier Orr: yeah.
Thaís Amorim: into the company profile today, I saw that he was part of the team now.
Toby Tank: How
Thaís Amorim: So,
Toby Tank: long
Thaís Amorim: there's
Toby Tank: was
Xavier Orr: Ah,
Toby Tank: that
Thaís Amorim: no
 
 

00:25:15

 
Toby Tank: it?
Xavier Orr: I see. Yeah.
Thaís Amorim: notifications
Toby Tank: Oh, okay.
Thaís Amorim: or anything.
Xavier Orr: Ah, yeah. Okay.
Toby Tank: Yeah.
Xavier Orr: Yeah, it's good.
Toby Tank: Yeah. And also we're we're like hardwired now to to like look for these micro indications. So, uh yeah, Ty
Xavier Orr: Ah, yeah.
Toby Tank: doesn't tend to miss them. Um
Xavier Orr: Yeah.
Toby Tank: yeah. So, sorry. He was uh that was a segue or a sort of meandering attempt to get to the point which was um yeah, Tyson I know some pretty interesting folks. Do do you want to see more for that role or for that sort of like that that problem that that sort of potential hiring
Xavier Orr: Say
Toby Tank: down
Xavier Orr: more.
Toby Tank: down the line? Yeah.
Xavier Orr: What do you mean say more?
Toby Tank: As in for the AI ro is that useful at this stage to see more profiles for that role if we unear
Xavier Orr: Um
Toby Tank: them.
Thaís Amorim: Come
Xavier Orr: potentially. Um yeah, I mean I think some cuz like yeah, we kind of got a bit of we're a bit stacked with sort of AI people now and really kind of want to try and start filling
Thaís Amorim: on.
Xavier Orr: out some robotics. Um but yeah, potentially sort of after. So
Toby Tank: Okay.
Xavier Orr: maybe like let's focus on this one and then
Toby Tank: Yeah.
Xavier Orr: we could
Toby Tank: Cool.
Xavier Orr: like have a look at that later.
Toby Tank: Yeah. Perfect. Um, cool. Well, we've given you a grilling. Um, anything any questions for us? Perfect. All right. Easy. Four minutes back, mate. Thanks for your time as ever. Nice chatting to you. Um, and we'll catch up very soon.
Thaís Amorim: Nice to meet you. Bye.
 
 

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